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Of course, everyone is free to chose. What I oppose is the systematic fight against GMO, nuclear etc without any facts to support it. Greenpeace never shows any data.

Posting pictures like that is just resorting to emotional arguments without basis. Show me instead epidemiological data that shows birth defects are related to GMO, radiation or whatnot. If you don't have that data, then I might as well claim the birth defect is caused by santa clause.

Birth defects, cancer etc are stochastic in nature so a individual case can never be connected to a specific cause. Only if there is a statistical connection is there any reason to make such claims.
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The main problem is that organic farming can not even support the current population and will fall way short of feeding the 9 billion people that will soon inhabit this earth. Thats why I boycott organic products on principle. It's just a luxury for us in the rich parts of the world but not a large scale solution.
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I like meat.

I'm holding a bloody chunk of beef right now.

I'm going to grill and eat the fucking hell out of it.

That is all.
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that pic was from a thalidomide case, my point wasn't to make an emotional argument..just that when science says something is safe, it isn't always right. you said science is always self correcting, but when science fucks up, it can be pretty major.

thats why i'll stick to real meat.
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that pic was from a thalidomide case, my point wasn't to make an emotional argument..just that when science says something is safe, it isn't always right. you said science is always self correcting, but when science fucks up, it can be pretty major.

thats why i'll stick to real meat.
I agree with that. Self correction can sometimes be rough, science can only give statements given the current level of knowledge but new things can always be found. In most cases the current level of knowledge is so huge though that the likelihood of finding something major new is as close to zero as possible.

When it comes to GMO's I have never sat down to dig through it myself. Its new and we should be cautious and companies like Monsanto is certainly not behaving ethically, lots of bullshit going on.

But the GMO rhetoric from greenpeace and other environmental organizations is so similar to their rhetoric regarding radiation which I do know the ins and outs of. So I don't trust them one bit, they are money making machines saying what they need to say to keep membership funds flowing and taking a fanatic approach seems to be most successful.

When it comes to the in vitro meat I think its identical to real meat. The growth process is mimicked. But we also get the freedom to chose fatty acids. To bad that omega 3 makes things taste fishy, I would not like my beef to taste fish
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